Suggestions on storing profiles in Rig Manager - Kemper Profiler Forum (2024)

I don't have my computer in front of me, and therefore don't have access to the Rig Manager manual right now, (apparently it's only available when you're in Rig Manager, which kind of stinks).

Is there a general consensus on what is the best way to store all of the .kipr files (which I'm assuming are the profiles) in Rig Manager? I noticed that when I download a pack, it comes with several different sub-folders, and within those sub-folders are many different .kipr files. For example, the Tim Owens package that is listed on this forum has a folder of about 32 Friedman folders and a few Splawn folders. In each of those folders, it looks like there are multiple profiles. So how do you all recommend storing/organizing them?

Do you use a method like this?

All Rigs (folder)
Local Library (folder)
-----HAWP (the Tim Owens folder)
----------HAWP Friedman BE100 Phase-01 (folder)
---------------HAWP-1 BE GAIN-4 - 2015-01-05 18-32-18.kipr
---------------HAWP-1 BE GAIN-7 - 2015-01-05 18-34-12.kipr
----------HAWP Splawn QuickRod Phase-01 (folder)
--------------QR3-1P1B1M3T1OD1 - 2015-01-31 14-06-04.kipr
--------------QR3-1P1B1M3T1OD2 - 2015-01-31 14-13-43.kipr
-----TAF (folder
----------TAF JCM800
---------------same process as above, listing individual Amp Factory JCM800 kipr files in this folder
---------------same process as above, listing individual Amp Factory JCM800 kipr files in this folder

Or, should I just remove all the kipr files from their individual folders and dump them all into one folder under the "Local Library" folder?

I'm just wondering what you all recommend for the best practices when it comes to storing your profiles.

I suggest keeping them in their original folders, because that seems to me like an easier way to find things.

There is a recent thread asking about how people use folders in Rig Manager - thee are a lot of good suggestions there.

Okay, that makes sense.

Also, what determines how the profile is shown on the Kemper's LED screen? I ask, because if for example, I'm using one of Tim Owens' Friedman profiles (HAWP-1 BE GAIN-4 - 2015-01-05 18-32-18.kipr), is that long file name what will come up? If so, can I just rename it to whatever I want and have that show up in the LED instead? At the same time, I don't want to remove any credit to Tim for the work he did in creating these profiles either. But I'd rather just have it labeled as something like "Friedman BE - High Gain" or Friedman BE - Clean", etc.

That way, I could have my structure broken down by amp types instead if I wanted to. A folder for all the Friedmans, then one for Marshalls, etc. And maybe inside those folders, have separate folders for clean and dirty profiles.

There's a limit to how deep folders will go - I think you get your own folders and sub-folders under those, and that's it.

The file name is not what is shown on the display (and they have nothing to do with each other). In your example, I think that profile will show up as just HAWP-1 BE GAIN-4. Unless the "name" tag in the profile is different.
You can rename that "name" tag in the rig manager, I believe. And you can't remove the original author of the amp or the cab portions of the profile, so no worries there

Quote from Michael_dk

There's a limit to how deep folders will go - I think you get your own folders and sub-folders under those, and that's it.

The file name is not what is shown on the display (and they have nothing to do with each other). In your example, I think that profile will show up as just HAWP-1 BE GAIN-4. Unless the "name" tag in the profile is different.
You can rename that "name" tag in the rig manager, I believe. And you can't remove the original author of the amp or the cab portions of the profile, so no worries there

Awesome. That's all perfect!

Here is how I do things:
since RM can't sadly replicate my computer folders structure, I just grab the root folder of my profiles collection and drop it onto RM's "Local Library".
Now I've got all my rigs in one long list, that I can order by author, by date, by amp type and so on.
Aside "Local Library" I've created a structured list of folders in RM as well. They are named like

SCs
------ Strato
------ Tele

HB
------ LP

DI

Acoustic
------ IRs
------ Simulations

Nice for G&L*

Nice for Makassar*

Merged

Metal

FX

Factory rigs

Purchased

Evaluating

Park1

Park2

...

Some comments:

• As you see, I disregard the amp brand, my structure is focused on the use I make of the rigs.
• HB
  ------ LP
  is a 2-folder structure actually, since the rigs not specifically described as "for LP" are stored in HB.
• This is a redundant classification system: some rigs that sound great with both guitars appear in both the related folders for example, and so on.
• I use the Parkn folders in order to just D&D rigs from my computer, for example when I have just d\l'ed a bunch and want to try them. Once I decide the use I want to make of them, I move them in one or more of the relative folder.
• My computer data structure is even more complex and catalogued by author, by the nature of the rig (DI, Merged, Vintage Amps, Tonematched rigs, Great Cleans, Cabs, ...). When I need something specific I just D&D onto Parkn and work from there. I only use the Profiler in Performance mode ATM, my Pool is empty.

HTH

(*) = my main guitars